February 18, 2024

As someone who’s lived in both Russia and Ukraine, who speaks Russian and Ukrainian, and is versed in their histories, I’ve been bombarded with questions about Putin’s recent interview with Tucker Carlson.  It prompted me to compile my answers into this article, hoping to clarify for my American friends the real backdrop and fallout of Putin’s remarks.

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For a more complete breakdown, see a take by Andrei Illarionov, senior analyst for Russian and European affairs of the Center for Security Policy, who used to be Putin’s economic adviser and knows him personally.  Illarionov lists 12 main messages and 30 basic fakes in Vladimir Putin’s interview with Tucker Carlson, adding that a detailed analysis of Putin’s fakes, errors, absurdities, distortions, manipulations, and falsifications requires considerable space and time and, hopefully, will be done in the near future.

Indeed, Putin packed his interview with so many tall tales that you’d need an academic thesis to tackle them all.  But let’s face it: who’s got the time for that?  So I’m serving up a condensed version, sprinkled with my own observations and takeaways for flavor.

First off, I tip my hat to Tucker Carlson for cozying Putin up enough to chatter away for two whole hours, revealing things about himself in ways we’d only speculated about.  It appears that 24 long years in an echo chamber of yes men has dulled Putin’s knack for crisp arguments.  With real opponents jailed and a tame opposition in check, Putin’s debate skills are as rusty as a Soviet-era Lada.  Throw him into an actual debate, and he’d fold faster than an empty suit.

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Confronted with a question about igniting Europe’s bloodiest conflict since WWII, he unspooled an hour-long Viking saga, more tangled than a bowl of medieval spaghetti, dates flung every which way but right.  Forget NATO fears; it’s all about the Kievan Rus princes now.

But how good is Putin as a historian?  Let’s just say he’s about as reliable as tales of Conan the Barbarian from Robert E. Howard’s imagination.  Had Tucker brought up Conan, Putin might well have anointed him a Russian hero who hailed from Cimmeria, which sounds like the Crimea and overlaps with modern Ukraine.  And since in Putin’s fantasy atlas Ukraine equals Russia, it makes Conan a local legend.  His entire historical discourse, replete with anachronisms, was equally imaginative.

After the flurry of memes and online jokes that followed, I thought we’d all have a good laugh and leave it at that.  Yet, despite the chuckles, some of my conservative friends still saw Putin as a kind of intellectual, a history enthusiast with odd fixations, granting him an unearned gloss of wisdom.

Taking Putin’s historical musings seriously implies viewing Ukraine — home to 44 million people and thousands of years of history — as merely an illusion, a historical glitch, a cartographic mistake in need of “fixing” by Putin.  But then we’d not be different from those who turned a blind eye to the Holocaust, dismissing it as a distant issue or even a regrettable means to peace.

It’s deeply troubling that Russia’s nuclear-armed leader places greater weight on a historical soap opera than on the pressing concerns of the living, breathing present.

Before we dive into historical rebuttals, let’s make one thing clear: in this scenario, history isn’t even the main concern.